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[spongelevator]

ok let's see where we are (pretending not to have read the post half a week ago)
...aw shiet six chapters
ok I am regretting adding ms paint level compilations now
but here we go

well I didn't exactly use all my 33 hand axes or however many I originally purchased
but my team kinda formed to become uhhhhh
ok wait let me go see
ike/titania/oscar/soren/ilyana/mist/volke/brom/jill/astrid/torgod/stefan with the occasional boyd/mordecai/nephenee (haar and kinda largo later too)
and out of them, five-seven can use hand axes and typically since none of them other than astrid ORKO they end up using like two full hand axes per map
I didn't intend on using like three paladins and a flier (two flier) but eh it happened and all of them use axes now and that shit can let me feed kills to uhhhhhh
ok there's nobody left who needs to be fed kills but it used to let me do that because 1-2 range and high damage
contrasted with binding blade's 45 hit hammers this game definitely favors them axes and man I wish largo joined earlier

more stave 
I forgot that chad elen support had a second part which is kinda the reason I went looking for it in the first place


"and even then, it would only be if the wound were severe enough to kill the victim"
so they CAN save the gravely wounded
now this makes many cutscenes very very stupid 
like why did elen not help hector in ch3
why did rhys not help greil in ch7
uhhhh
I don't recall others (definitely more out there though) but yeah it's cutscene logic


this one with red man and rhys shows staves can fix wounds but not a lethal dose of idiocy

this one too

also this one with rhys and wolt

staves do not appear to be able to cure sicknesses (I'm assuming this is chronic sickness)
in gameplay they can heal stuff like poison so they might be able to heal something like a common cold I dunno
when looking through sacred stones supports because wynaut

it seems this garbage support reveals staves can heal scars (unless this whole thing is just japes and not only the other half) so probably it's just any wound of any age but mainly only stuff like wounds and bruises
I'm assuming staves can't heal really bad stuff though because otherwise largo would be playable in RD
honestly I wouldn't be surprised if fire emblem doesn't have doctor doctors at all and it's just staves or medicinal herbs

also while not really related you said "magic" once and that reminded me of canas supports like the one where his brothers failed to learn dark magic and starred in an episode of veggietales

"Canas: Oh, no! They are alive! But...barely. They merely subsist... As you know, elder magic is based on the forces of darkness... It is even more powerful than nature magic, which is often called anima. But to use this magic, you must invite the dark forces within you. The temptation to submit to the darkness is...great. ...Unfortunately, the darkness took my brothers... They live...and breathe...their eyes open and close... But...they do not move. And they do not speak."

"Canas: There is no guarantee that I will not join them... ...... Truthfully, it scares me... However, I must see the other side. My curiosity pushes me ever deeper. It will be my undoing."

"Canas: My wife and I are magic users like yourself. When I look at one of my wife's tomes, it truly lightens my heart... Anima is the magic of nature... This communion with the spirit of all things unleashes the heart. This magic makes us feel free... The elder magic that I use requires great strength to master its forces."




and then that mention of canas's wife reminded me of how nino uses tomes but she can't read so she just like
pretends to read and it works
in tellius the tomes are in the ancient spaghetti language so mages have a basic knowledge of it in written form to be able to cast magic
also no clue how exactly tomes work all I know is they are necessary to cast magic and also using it drains some power from the book each use (an empty tome in genealogy is "drained tome") which is pretty strange

ok anyway enough of that now onto ledges
ledges are kinda cool but man RD just uses them to make the horses go one way and the foot units go another
gotta bring it back and do it right it has potential there

yeah I realized I could have just forged like ten 999 might hand axes and now they would actually last but it is far too late for me now
I did however remember this lesson and the results were epic


ok I could have sworn at the beginning ike said something about avoiding combat with the laguz but I tried looking for that line and it does not exist
couldn't even find anything in menus noting it as a side objective or anything
in fact ike even says "Take care and fight well!" so it's almost suggesting the opposite 
what is supposed to happen is if you keep them alive you get the mother of all omelets
whether or not this BEXP is to immediately promote torgod is a mystery but it's a very good amount like the prison chapter without alert
also just to save desert people
ok I realized you already saw that so never mind this paragraph has no purpose 

rip lucia :(((((

why game, WHY

hey ikey-kun check this out


yeah those ch18 siege tomers suck ass I will tell my tale of many a failed heist after putting 16 pictures into a rectangle

ilyana :( garbage forever in every way

if not help is help
then what do 

hey hey hey it's time for some laguz lessons
for some reason in this game it seems every time there is a recruitable laguz character and you kill the guys they are with you lose rewards
in this case ulki talks to naesala and then naesala talks to reyson and gives him the knight ring if you didn't kill any of his ravens
30bexp per raven that escapes though at this point in the game everyone's probably promoted anyway but the knight ring allows for honorary mage knight and honorary valkyrie torgod (especially if he has both celery and boots)
that's right man you are missing out on the ultimate 10-move canto siege tome-using speedy offensive and defensive valkyrie sage knight (I did not get boots but I got the rest)

also wait what you didn't give nephenee vantage until ch20 and she was still your best unit
everyone always says wrath+vantage+two range=tomato soup but I gave her all that shit and all she did was smack one guy in the face with her noodle arms for 9 damage, get hit to very low health, and then fuck off so the hand axe crew can clean up the mess
rinse and repeat for about eight chapters until oscar has finally grown up and nephenee loses her niche of "at least she's not oscar"
actually I am seeing wrath vantage did not work for you either 
except in the complete opposite way
ok well I have no idea but my nephenee basically just ate vantage and then sat on the bench even though I always intended on using her

fuk 
silencer PoR volke awwww shit
after jaffar I've wanted to use assassins in every game they exist in 
and every assassin other than jaffar turns out to be absolute shite
I heard silencer on PoR volke was not good but I thought "eh how bad can it be nobody else wants this scroll anyway"
and then I saw the truth
skill cap of 30
highest crit on a knife is 10
highest proc rate if stiletto+capped skill is 12.5% on an enemy with 0 luck and does not work on bosses
this makes man cry
ike can proc kill 100% of the time by equipping ragnell
RD did do something cool though in making volke have a skill cap of 40 
innate +25 crit as a skill
stiletto has 20 crit or baselard has 15 if you want that and when paired with gamble (there is room to put gamble now) we're talking like 90+ crit on your average enemy with high hit rates so silencer is almost a coin flip now
but then...

GAAAAAAMMMEEEE

EDIT: wait hold on hoooold on 
wrong
I am wrong
I was thinking about how silencer has been nerfed to hell over the series from going to "crit/2, crit/4 on bosses, doesn't work on the final boss" with assassins using swords (killing edge) to "skill/4, has to do at least one damage to activate, doesn't work on many/all bosses" so I checked again
and it turns out

radiant dawn is when it started being based on skill and not crit
meaning it has a 20% activation rate at most due to the cap unless resolve (which was also nerfed to be below 20% health)
volke critting is just straight up more reliable in every way and because of baselard's 18 might and 15 crit as well as assassin having a higher strength cap and equal speed cap to trueblade, yeah...
only reason people say it's good here is because you get it for free 
well at least jaffar makes that shit happen :(


if you have not used that wrath I would say to heavily consider keeping it for ike so endgame isn't boxing ashnard in with paladins and healing for like 45 minutes
some guy made a guide on how to beat him without wrath+resolve because some people just could not do it 
no idea if it's actually that problematic but I don't really care to do it again because I've heard ike does effectively 3 damage per turn unless supports+nasir+reyson
this game continues the series standard of "piss easy final boss if prepared and absolutely awful if not" except preparation this time is unspoken kinda like how fe4 does not tell you to train julia and if unpromoted lv1 julia goes up to julius with naga we get what's called "funny" (also a similar situation of seliph doing what was it, 5 damage per turn with tyrfing after healing?)

radiant dawn is probably the only game in the entire series except for three house where you really really really should not ironman it
not because you won't have enough units to finish
but because the balance is so comically bad that if your weaker guys die instead of being trained up, every single part past part 1 is gonna be a stomp
stat inflation up the ass (we're talking bases AND growths) so the strongest units give not one fuck and the moment you finish 3-13 you've already won
and when I say that about the balance I am not joking

you can throw haar at every single chapter and he will clear it and go right back to sleep
move over fe7, THIS is the most fail-proof game in the series
instead of one gotoh, you get FIVE
there's even a sixth new game plus gotoh who literally cannot be damaged by the final boss
also if it's a true ironman (garbage) then if miccy gets hit once she will explode so that aint exactly spectacular 
at least loy can take one hit until midgame

also yeah this game's cast
surprisingly nice
initially I saw the designs and could barely cobble together a team of 14-15 units (which is apparently too much for this game with its 11 deployment slots) but after playing I like probably 80% of the cast with one major exception being lethe (fuck you lethe)

and this actually brings me to supports
those things are actually hand-picked supports
even moreso than the usual GBA stuff in that it puts just what definitely works 

according to this probably-correct image, there are but 68 support pairings in PoR out of 46 playable units
three conversations each and we have 204 conversations total
contrast this with binding blade's 429 (over double) or fates's 3123-4164 (3-4 conversations per pairing so between these numbers) and it's pretty clear why people say PoR does it best
and as a result of these lower numbers the writers have time to make lengthy and higher quality conversations
also building supports by bringing two units to the same chapters is a nice system
only issue I have is this
serenesforest.net/path-of-radiance/characters/supports/
most supports take at least 7-8 chapters to reach A rank and you even get horrendous ones like titania and ike's 26 chapters for an A support
because of this it's probably the slowest support system in the series even compared to GBA because if you make an effort to build supports in GBA they are not gonna take 8 chapters to reach A rank unless you LTCing
other than that though good shit cast and good shit supports system (base conversations are very nice too) but man this actual quality integration of supports as a main mechanic lasted 1 (one) game
radiant dawn doesn't have support conversations it has these


ok now I gotta put six chapters oh god
chapter eighteen
before speaking of this ordeal 
the new music/player/enemy phase sound effects are so over the top lol it is great
always nice when the game changes the music when shit gets real

anyway
took a long ass time
my first attempt went down the toilet when I realized I needed rolf to recruit shinon
but second attempt and on that's where it gets bad
I wanted to steal them siege tomes
but there are two siegers too close to each other
shinon is also nearby and rolf needs to talk to him
but if I don't go quickly then the ravens start stealing all my shit
second attempt died when I left ike in the range of two siege tomes and nobody could rescue him
after this I decided to just have wolt go right out of range of the non-shinon enemies and he'd use a pure water to survive one bolting or blizzard or whichever one he was in range of and then rescue after he talks to shinon
third attempt was kill when I accidentally dropped ike next to wolt so nobody could rescue wolt
and after this point I decided to just not bother with stealing the siege tomes
after that it became much easier 
I got all the shit but the siege tomes but it was sad times
also it was at this part the game says directly to not bring jill in the chapter with her dad
so it turns out it aint an orson situation or anything like I thought it was

levels


now ch19 
immediately ballistas
also two deployment slots go to making the crows or ravens or whatever go away I don't remember which of those it is
a third slot went into having mordecai smite ulki to talk to naesala on turn 2 and then rescuing mordecai so he doesn't kill the bird to the right
naesala talks to reyson and finally, torgod
afterwards one raven attacked an enemy warrior and died in the scuffle
birds may be a pain in the ass but that one was a trooper
may you rest in peace

also

days of putting four units into a diamond and trying to dance all four with lalum but failing is OVER

this chapter was the part that really feels like lategame now
everyone's promoting and the music is changing and mastery skills are activating all the time
very nice


after a shamefur dispray chapter is over
and it was really damn easy 
after this is calill and 70k cutscene gold lmao what the hell

levels


caper 19
jill just reached A support with mist so I get to see the conversation
also this chapter has a deployment limit of eleven
eleven
I have eighteen team members, soon to be nineteen

anyway not a difficult chapter
I don't need to say that every chapter because we all know this shit is the easiest hard mode in the series but 
not a hard chapter

made up for ch18

that's right man
100% intact pristine blizzard
 
had jill talk to her dad and immediately after this ike aether crit (at least I think it was a crit) shiharam and he turned into dust and blew away in the wind

levels


now ch21
it is large with stave users
but now that I have a dancer (especially with like 8-9 move+canto+work for four units at once) it was really easy and I got all the shit and full bonus EXP because the map is also too large for reinforcements to actually reach you quickly unless your team is ike+brom+gatrie and nothing else
tauroneo is here to be the third armor I have no idea how to use and brom is already almost benched 
why all the cool armors gotta be here instead of in 3ds where pair up makes them actually work (at least benny is cool)
also a comically easy 1-range ena who is weak to bolting ha ha ha what you gonna do about it

titania slayed a dragon... and got 20exp for it?
I'm pretty sure she got more exp from whatever this game's batta the beast is called
ena looks very sad there but do not worry she is okay she is alive she is fiiiiine just use a stave- oh wait 

levels



ch22
you shove priests 

one turn before killing the boss I have ike shove a priest and forget the priest is too stupid to not get turned into chicken nuggets so no ashera staff for me
I stole killer axe

levels


ch23
bridge covered in ballistas and a siege tomer
haar recruitment is here and team is finally complete
also random unmarked holes on the bridge are traps that you fall into
if you end on one of those spots OR if you are moving to a spot and it happens to be in your path, you fall in
titania fell into a pit
walked out of the pit
and then fell into another adjacent pit 
there was a 75% chance titania would not immediately fall into a pit that turn and guess who missed
god I wanna meet who made this map and give him a good whack on the skull

after this greenies come in and steal yo kills and stefan destroys the weak ass boss that I forgot was a plot character

by the way
want a pep secret?


levels

[Aeon]

this post is slightly binted because i actually wrote the non-response part very soon after i last posted in this thread

interesting team ya got there
i notice neither of us really used anyone from past halfway through the game
even me who never fails to deploy dancers stopped deploying my dancer because cmon man the animation just takes so damn long and he cant even pretend to defend himself like azura or my edelgard (extreme case) can
plus weakness to wind magic and arrows and all laguzslaying weapons and generally still an asshole plus L plus ratio plus your family is dead
i really just dont wanna be resetting or loading due to a misinput on astrid or something and if the power team of ikenephmiavolke is unstoppable what excuse do i have to not play optimally
cool that your team is very different though. a buncha horses but paladins are neat here since they can get sol and duo with a weapon of your choice (its axes i know)
conversely my 1-2 doesnt exist without nephenee holding a javelin but arrows tend to [NO DAMAGE] and enemy magic is useful in that it is the only thing aside from alondite that can even hope to get nephenee anywhere near wrath range

i think rhys did not help greil because he was dead by the time they got back to base. in a later conversation ike tells titania that greil died in his arms
no excuse for you though lazy ass healer

climb into the abyss and pull the bastard out of naga's hands. ashera? i dont know. valkyrie staff works just fine. i wonder if bifrost works. who the hell has s rank staves

so they can fix holes in your head and poison in your veins but not the little bacteria dudes huh
perhaps it is because illness is life and it is only capable of restoring life. maybe it could restore aids or like arthritis because thats weakened life but not bacteria or a virus
lemme actually see the gameplay extent of staves. since theyre never stronger in cutscenes than they are in gameplay that can be the upper limit of what they do
heal mend recover physic fortify restore yeah simple enough
some of the gimmick staves from awakening and fates stick almost imply that the healer just needs some tool to perform magic and not necessarily a magically charged one. you could probably find some cutscene instances of healing happening without a staff as well
warp, rescue, and entrap are all movement things which still make gameplay sense as in its a support unit functionality but canonically what is the connection between relocation magic and healing. is it just under the category of "miracles" or "divinity" in that its something that defys magical conventions or can it be quantified? again really looknig too far into this but despite fates' under-developed magic in general, staves are very present and with a very wide array of utility. it may be that the rules that define (tome) magic and whatever healers are capable of are simply entirely disparate. very interesting if true! i will treat this as canon from now on
anyway what else do we have
ward is something capable of modifying target without healing them. cant say too much about it though aside from noting magic's seemingly nonexistent defensive capability aside from the res stat
did not know about unlock and thief staves but you could probably chalk that up to being very precise nonorganic applications of rescue and entrap. this brings me to my next question. can you heal a wall? maybe its like this

silence might be more evidence to say that stafflogic is independent and outside of magic however it also prevents the use of other staves. troubling
sleep, berserk, freeze, and the other offensive ones are interesting in that they leave longlasting effects, something i was trying to figure out if magic was capable of, although they are still limited to like. a few turns. in genealogy time apparently thats days though!
torch is somehow a staff but logically its probably just a magic lightbulb. funnel power in get light out. thats why its d rank

prf staves i just have to ignore since they basically all work on arbitrary "you have holy blood" rules. curiously bifrost does not bear any restrictions ((aside from the obvious)). obviously. this is because there is zero way to know what staff-users you have at any point in fates since your gender determines which one you start with. anyone can use this thing and it breaks very easily so it seems very much like a technology! its a staff and not a rod even though you find it at hoshido castle! so many mysteries

thats all i got

magic too! busted stuff
dark magic i honestly never even really thought of as more than "normal magic but bad guys use it more" so very interesting gba stuff there. reminds me of fullmetal alchemist, a show i haven't watched
what a nice looking bloke though. dark magic users are all so scary

i see haar there. looks a bit different hmmm
YOURE IN RADIANT DAWN
cant believe this
i am chumped out. so this is the determination that brought the series so far to its knees...........
and hes level nineteen with capped stats my guy have you already won
looks like his entire inventory is forged weapons. is it not limited to one a chapter or are you just a big haarhead

lucia yeah thanks buddy swordmaster that cant crit or use astra. she starts with racism item too. at least she looks cool

i did actually make help too, although i didnt use it since that was around the time i decided to use the power quad team

knight ring? hmm. canto on anybody. shit.
youd think you could get a lil reward by beating the strong guy but i guess nonviolence is the true way of the hero-king

yeah lmao i held onto most of my skills for a while before dropping them on. did not know that was a prevalent strategy but i can imagine why

maybe. volkes prospects are not statistically the best. but i also like using assassins and thieves and he pops lethality more than i ask for so i dont mind keeping the guy around. also very cool! helps balances the tipping gender ratio here. maybe ike can kill always with ragnell. but that would require. ike to have. ragn

but i just consider it giving volke crit*1.5 and thats good enough for me. was kinda hoping the guy would get bows or swords on promotion but whatever
thank you for all the assassindata

i have not used my wrath but ike also doesnt have space for it and i am not getting rid of dear aether. luna hit of it works fine right. surely not softlocked. worst case scenario i gotta pull out nephenee on the guy

that is a shame! radiant dawn i was hoping was more. challenging. maybe i do somethin else where i get rid of one unit a chapter or something because otherwise i will probably just use the exact same units with even better stats

i do very much like having more support options and being able to do a lot of them, or at least more than five, but yes all of the path of radiance onces ive seen have been very cool. the basically random time it takes to get supports is pretty balls though
anyway what is this no support radiant dawn bullshit!!! cmon man!!!!!! does it just have a lotta info conversations or other replacements because thats super lame

[the point in the game when the audio changes] is always cool. happens in most fire emblem and a buncha other stuff. the way you know shit is getting real (it doesnt get real in this game but its okay they tried)

i am reading your chapterplays but this post is getting long so i will mostly say:
congrats on the blizzard. a clean getaway
ena is yeah not a big deal. took me a bit since i didnt bring laguz weapons or thunder tomes but cmon. one range boss
BRIDGE PART TWO
WHY ARE THERE FIVE LOSE CONDITION UNITS
truly demented. i do not know what to even do


i am now gaming.

chapter 24 is notable for being the first time nephenee has gotten to wrath hp since i gave her vantage and begun to realize her potential. she swept the entire left of the map while ike, mia, and volke got the top. i actually deployed up to max, but everybody else just sat in a corner having fun and gaining supports. they took care of two guys that targeted em but that was it. until mister black knight decided to show up! oh shit
this time he was NOT a same turn reinforcement though i had an entire player phase to barely move callil out of the way. in that time i went and saw if i could do any decent damage to him with my now much more powerful team, and i checked the numbers and i could! well not much but callil could hit for a few. maybe bring ike back and get a good savestated aether and we start to talk
hm. odd. callil deals zero damage! she has more mag + mt than he has res. in fact, nobody that can reach him does any damage despite it statistically being possible

ike walks out to meet the black knight
he does zero damage. not even on crit
the black knight says. this puny weapon. cannot defeat me.
you must use. Ragnell.
ike says: what is ragnell. i only know about aagne11.
the black knight says: you have ragnell. you have ragnell
ike says: hm. i suppose i do.
ike does not get ragnell.

NEXT chapter is another max deployment but only use four units map. team a (ike, mia, volke) take the left and team b (nephenee) takes the right. it works, you know, you know. not much to say other than that there are still unpromoted enemy units in chapter twenty-five

hold on lemme like

this is in conquest 15, ten chapters before that path of radiance guy. comical (i know stats are different between games but they arent that different)
and ON that note whats up with enemy skills huh? as in. where are literally any of them. the odd boss has one thing every other chapter or so but it has literally never made a difference. only time i ever worried about it was one guy in enachapter with wrath but he missed his one shot on it







next chapter and heres somethin right: i have not given ike any supports the entire game
part of this is because i know i did some of the titania and soren ones the first time i played but eventually i realized that there are probably not that many people who have actually seen the supports for the later characters since you only get five. i decided i was goin all in on rare supports so i wait and i slowly see ike get more guys to talk to. he gets lethe and then nobody for a long time until reyson
reyson is kind of a bitch so i don't go for it
much later again, ranulf shows up. he is a pretty chill dude so i let him in the team for two chapters and get B support with the guy. cool dude
but there's one mooore ?? on that list. who could it be? who is so important that they can somehow get all of their supports at the very end of the game


LOOKIN SLICK GIRL
but i don't know if i'm gonna trust lategame pegasus unit to be really great lemme just check

INFINITE USE BRAVE WEAPON
her stats were pretty awful so i gave her ten levels immediately, an energy drop, and a statue fragment and now she looks alright. you might say that this is too much investment in a random unit just because she has a cool sword she will underperform with BUT, you see, she fills a fantastic role in my four person army
that role being: combat medic. rhys is not a combat medic since he gets doubled sometimes (unforgivable). i further provide elincia with guard, wrath, and the full guard item because by this point i have also realized she is forced deployment so she has to be decent. i dont like the idea of seriously using the frail princess instead of the many manly men we have on our team. feels wrong. but still, i like her new fit. and its too late to take those stat boosters back
so lets simply do this shit
no i am not giving her the sonic sword mia is doing great with it

chapter 26. twenty six! we're really getting there.
there is not much drama to the battle unfortunately. map is grassy field with seizable castle, fairly normal for this game, and while it is touted as a massive clash of armies unlike one seen before in the war, it is pathetically easy even while ferrying around elincia. i die once due to refusing to switch to my named weapon because i dont want it to break
otherwise its nephenee cant die simulator no. 7. again, she never gets low enough to proc wrath even with these guys on her ass
at least every enemy unit is finally promoted. took ya until my team was averaging level 21+12. doesnt do much for the poor guys but its somethin
mia shows off her iron elwind a few times and its pretty legit. i do not regret this especially since the boss is going to drop a silver nosferatu. zoo wee mama that's some good chow

there is an info cutscene with titania after this chapter.
she says: ike. you have ragnell.
ike says: i have ragnell.
ike does not get ragnell.

[spongelevator]

honestly unit distribution in this game is aids in general
by the end of chapter nine (one-third of the way through the game) you have access to a whopping 11+2 (shinon and gatrie) units
while by the end of chapter THREE in binding blade, you have 13+1(merlinus) units
also there's 43 units per playthrough if I counted correctly (only one dragon and one laguz royal) and seven of those 43 come way too late to really do much of anything unless literally everyone else is dead
like come on man even SACRED STONES with its 34 playable units and 20 chapters per playthrough distributes that shit reasonably but PoR makes me choose whether to give oscar, boyd, ike, or soren 15 levels before the story even goes anywhere (or two levels for titania)
I like me mages and me axes though and this game lets me do that at least
my favorite part of 50% axes 50% magic is when I get a new sword and say "hey look ike! a weapon, just for you!" and then he gets ragnell and everything other than stefan's silver swords is sold as swiftly as the speed of sound

I almost never bring dancers (or xane because I forgot him) because I always have more characters I want to use than deployment slots if we're not talking fatesawakening and every dancer other than elphin and kiiiiinda sylvia is "eh whatever" personality-wise
but in my uninformed personal opinion I think a dancer should die in one hit from many things and almost die in others so it trains the peoples not to put their healer in the front of the map where they will certainly die (stop earlygame healer abuse!)
no clue about thracia but I know in 6-10 everybody other than a small child can rescue a dancer for safety (actual intended purpose of mechanic) and/or moving them halfway across the map and always near the front lines because of rescuedropping (not intended purpose of mechanic) so unlike genealogy seliphless% you can save your boots for favorite meme unit (g)wendy(olyn)
despite this though
imagine bringing reyson instead of brom lamo! this post was made by the brom brigade

you know who COULD have healed greil (with physic)?

that's right man
it's a tellius conspiracy

to bring up another situation of dead character undies other than valkyrie aum bifrosted flakes (by the way this isn't plot important at all you could cut this scene out and nothing changes)
in one of the first few chapters of radiant dawn a soldier just smacks a kid and he dies
and then miccy uses her (never properly explained) plot powers to undead the kid right then and there
obviously this is a case of not good writing but man they really uh
they really gotta stop doing that shit
I'm pretty sure we've had some ten? dead parents across the series (probably forgetting some) who die in cutscenes but then also four occasions of literally being able to revive the dead like it's no big deal

I think rhys is just physically frail and sickly but he can't be healed so I have no idea if that would work
aids is a virus but the mention of bacteria brings up a question
so staves can mend wounds but what about infections and shit
if epic kieran dips his axe into a puddle of mud and then proceeds to ram it directly up his
then would he be okay after a stave or would he die from infection because it's medieval times no doktor
how about when some thief goes up to ike and shanks him with a rusty knife he found in a bathroom and takes his single-use vulnerary and three remaining iron swords
is it just game over because they don't know what "sterilize" is yet
actually if staves are unable to deal with bacteria as well that is kinda wacky because then it doesn't make staves just a highly advanced and superior form of modern medicine and instead they're just a magic way to unstab your friends

only cutscene I am aware of involving healing is about seven seconds of rhys healing with a stave
nothing in particular happens though
I forgot fatesawakening had shit like
rolling pin stave or mushroom I think there was mushroom
I think it has to just be japes because miccy healing without a stave is seen as very abnormal in tellius and it seems most church members know how to use staves across all the games to help the injured

in regards to movement staves (warp, rewarp, rescue, return, entrap) tellius ALMOST went into it by having "warp powder" and having the corrupt noble guys trying to develop better staves but then I'm pretty sure they just did not go into it any more than that
there was also "esleep" and "esilence" which were the respective stave except with 20 range but this is never mentioned in story at all and I think it was just said to be "staves improved with research"
also another thing is staves used to basically only be usable by religious disciples so it could be explained as holy miracles or something but then after uhhh
I don't really know what game but eventually it started being "those guys and sages" and then "those guys and sages and horsey healers" and then "those guys and sages and horsey healers and druids" and now that even falcoknights have that shit I am clueless as to whether staves are just some alternate magic or what because there is no way all of those people are part of the church
gameplay-wise it is cool but story-wise I can't tell at all what is happening
the only consistent thing seems to be that, with the right effort, anyone can learn magic and anyone can learn to use staves even if they aren't ever gonna be amazing at it (which is canonically why cecilia told loy to learn swords and not magic so ririna can nuke while loy stands next to her so she gets +15 crit)

dunno about healing walls but
in kapitalist amerika, you damage wall
in soviet russia, wall damage you



with silence/sleep/berserk/freeze/esilence/esleep/nightmare/whatever the hell else I forgot about by now I genuinely have no idea how it is supposed to work
same with physic and fortify/staff of the saint/ashera staff/matrona/whatever else
and also bolting/blizzard/meteor/eclipse/purge
actually just everything with more than 3-range in general I have no idea how that's supposed to work because every instance of stave tutorial goes "you have to bring them near me so I can heal!" so why is this stave able to heal your guy 5 miles away
with 1-2 range magic you see the fireball/wind/lightning/whatever come out from in front of the caster but with status staves you just see a druid at the top of a mountain do a funny arms thing and hear "weaowhhhhhhh" and then suddenly rutger has beheaded six of your units 
torch though this is somethin unique
in that in uhhh
I'm only aware of fe7/8
but in those two games only, you can actually choose where specifically you want the origin point of the light to be in a mag/2 range
so in those two games and those two only, torch also goes into the "man how does that shit work" category
actually thinking about it again it's probably just being able to use something further the more magical power you have as long as the tome/stave allows it I think I am just bein dumb

also fates was strange in putting shrine maidens who are most certainly religious and having them use special rods 
except you can also give a rod to your butlerman and he does that shit the very same
it was weird to see them redo and then unredo the whole "religious healer" thing but hey at least it led to a very funny birthright run

I always liked how GBA did just a little bit more with magic and also generally went away with the dark magic=evil (niime, canas, knoll are scholars, raigh is just looking for the most powerful magic, sophia is uhhhhhhh) which made it have its own things going on
it had me wishing more games split anima magic into three types like tellius except actually done well

yeah I finished radiant dawn a day or two before making that post

as of now I am about 3/4 of the way through fire emblem: light stone of the holy demon do not worry

I would not recommend this as I am likely going to acquire dementia within the next decade as a result

instead of one per chapter it's just whenever you want
except most of the actually good shit unlocks in part 4 where you get two (2) opportunities to forge ever
game sells you stuff like "steel poleax" and "steel greatlance" where it's just axes and lances except more might than any non-silver forge so other than those two chapters and part one forging is useless
I have that many because every coin (kern) gives a bonus to your forge
it shows a little card game thing but it's rigged so you get the same result for each kern
there's a bonus that gives +2 might (and another that gives +3 but that's a 2% chance so no thanks) so I just savestated before every forge and then continuously did it for like fifteen minutes until I could make the mighty TITAN (red) to bless and use forever more (three chapters)
now it wasn't great but I can assure you at the very least it wasn't my worst blessed weapon 
definitely worth
haar is also good though because I went through every game saying "man these wyvern guys suck" until I got to cherche with her axes and :) then haar has axes and doesn't fucking suck and :))))))) hand axe

epic lucia (dies in two hits) moment (personal skill is parity) definitely will deploy and use! (bench)

nephenee cannot damage ashnard his armor is blessed
it's just ike/dragon/royal
BUT I checked his stats again and compared them to burger king
it turns out as long as you can beat that fight, you can beat this one
all of the preparations and activations are the same
you need a certain amount of aethers as well as a mounted healer/physic except he has 5 less defense
so this is no more or less RNG-based than burger king's fight
wrath+resolve is an almost guaranteed crit (well 70% but still) and that's with ike's 39 strength and 42 speed so he's gonna be doing 22*3 damage and twice each turn
since I melted him in three hits I guess I just never found any of this out
my eyes have been opened though my ike already killed ashnard 1.5 times over multiple times so it do not matter to me!!!

I found out there were cheats to unfuck hard mode (adds back weapon triangle, enemy ranges, I think supports? forgot what else)
forums.serenesforest.net/index.php?/topic/51997-hard-mode-gecko-codes/
no idea if hard is any harder but if not you can just use shitty units
you won't be endgame-screwed because of the BEXP system and 20/20/20 units
everyone's gonna cap their stats if raised up 
and yes, this includes epic lucia (yes!) and epic shinon (yes!) and epic mia (yes!) and epic elincia (yes!) and epic brom (...yes!) and epic wolt (...yes?) and epic torgod (...no) and epic tauroneo (no) and epic astrid (oh no no no)
what I mean to say is whoever balanced this game forgot to reset the scale and decided to give torgod as a fire sage in part 1 and then take him away, then give him back to you in the second to last chapter before endgame as a part 1 fire sage

it has about the same amount of info conversations, maybe a little less
there are no replacements either
I don't actually know how supports form because I was so not thrilled to do them in RD but you basically manually pair up two units and they can only support each other
and then if you put them next to each other they'll say some personalized form of "(unit), good to see you!(gunter voice)" "hello, (unit), stay safe out there! (laslow voice)"
it's one of the reasons people say dawn brigade is just awful and the game should have fully focused on them
barely any dialogue, no support conversations, and they get like 11 chapters to themselves and then become wholly irrelevant
imagine lyn mode except those characters are supposed to be the focus of the entire game without any effort to actually achieve this
personally I think you can take nolan and laura and squidward and put them into the crimean royal knights and then dump the rest and elincia can be the lord for the game because best tellius lord

not just five lose condition units, three lose condition units who are weak to the ballistas all over the god damn bridge
(it's actually not that bad because lol wyverns are not weak to arrows OR wind in this game so haar funtimes)

good on ike for not taking out r4gn3\\ it would make the game a comical stomp as ike skewers fifteen ravens and eats them to restore the paper cut he took from the dragon boss he threw into the air and sliced into chicken nuggets (rules of nature)

>armorslayer on fighter


apparently maniac has skills on enemies/bosses but maniac is poop
for an alternative RD's endgame has bosses with skills like "nullify res of opponent and halve hit" or "do x4 damage at skill%"(the guy who has this has resolve) or "nullify defense and multiply strength by 5" where if you don't have nihil you will die because this game has close to awakening-level stat inflation so the most noteworthy boss does 73*3 damage when his skill activates
except you don't find this out until you're well into endgame so better hope you took off everyone's skills before and made four backup saves (I took them off to sell but never sold them I got lucky)

man mist is the combat medic did you not train mist
I pray for you
also she is only force deployment for that one chapter I am pretty sure 
she miiiight have been force deployed for endgame I don't remember but if she is then I guess she can do mist's job there
otherwise though this is just one of two times when elincia gets the shit end of the stick (both times)
did you know in radiant dawn, elincia's part is the shortest in the game at five chapters and she is only playable in two of them with one being the prologue?
did you know she is only a lord in two of ten chapters she is available in, with tibarn being the commander in her part 4 chapters and not her? 
did you know her defeat in any of the five endgame chapters is not a lose condition, but ike and micaiah's are?

ok that image is way too damn big but I do not really care enough to unbig it
you may slowly notice each and every pixel that points towards "flipped mouth in MS paint in fifteen seconds"

ok what we on
chapter 25
24
okay 24

literally all I wrote is "god damn it man there's not even enough deployment space to bring the regulars" and "ballista is here"
oh and I noted the game is still throwing unpromoted enemies with 20 hit at you in chapter four-and-twenty
so I'll go take a look again
uhhh
yep
arrive in 15 turns huh
there really is not much to say then
I vaguely recall ferrying over volke to try and steal the boss's short axe and/or elixir and also seeing lucia's stats and immediately trading all her shit to stefan but otherwise yeah it's a chapter

levels


ok now it is chapter 25
and now I have something to say about it

the moment I saw this
and saw the map
I got ch16x flashbacks
unlike 16x though I couldn't see any consistent way to tell exactly how/where the boulders would fall
BUT they also don't respawn
so it turns out this is a very slow map for a little while and then it's just a normal mountains map after
also the AI doesn't prioritize pushing the boulders I don't think
because I put units directly into the path of boulders in hopes they would just get rid of the things already but the enemies just sat there until they died

map itself is easy
obliterated boss via bolting bukkake on turn 2 (epic endgame four sages moment) and then I sent ike left, mist stayed at the bottom with physic, and everyone else went right
there was even one enemy too scared to push a boulder in fear of ike who later cut him into chicken nuggets (wait I already said chicken nuggets earlier for the 69420th time okay ike cut him into pieces this was his last resort)
also guy on top drops purge so this time objective was to get it with no uses
I have zero memory of whether I succeeded and I can't go check right now but only rhys can use it so it's pretty much useless regardless

levels


ch26
see how we've been talking about how enemies are still unpromoted
and low deployment counts


not a single unpromoted enemy on the map
this shit was the renaissance of this game
PoR's chapter 21
status staves and siege tomes
new player phase music again and it gets wacky
brom can come back
nephenee can come back
ilyana can come back (well she was here last chapter but still)
rhys gonna heal again
return of boyd
largo can join (he is wearing a bear's head)
just all around good shit
the map itself is just an "eh" map but it did everything else great

anyway still easy but I don't care I got to see everyone one last time before the deployment limit goes back to 3

levels

[Aeon]

hows it goin buddy

an entire month later. i had a few things. school. making the game. losing twice to ashnard. you know. my favorite thing to do is make posts. which i will continue doing. very soon.



the chapter content posts were again composed long before this response segment. i hope everything works out

unit distribution? yeah its super busted. you are forced to use the same team for so long and then they pile 2890374902387429387423 underleveled units and 13 stefans atcha



i make repeated mistakes and have not counted any mages amongst my strongest units in my last three games of fire emblem. odin became a dread fighter and his kid became a liability in speed and def, i gave everybody in three houses access to ""magic"" as a trickster or dancer but it was mostly for utility magic and they mained their melees, and the four man team worked so well in path of radiance it was just pointless to carry around someone that wasnt a dodge or def tank. i am glad you liked usin em! access to the seige stuff was neat



brom brigade may be the smart ones after all. half of the enemies cant get through ike's defense, let alone nephenee or an actual armor knight's. there's a total of like three mages in endgame so you aren't losing much by not having res.



maicaiacaia can revive the dead! awesome

i dont know anything about the girl i've just seen her around

i do hate dead parents fire emblem a lot. mostly three houses. you could just say "im sorry kid im literally too strong to even be in the game right now. i will join you in endgame if you complete [SIDEQUEST]"

greil is cool and all but damn it



i feel like muddy axe goes into the same thing as venin axe

wait is an infection like poison? if i get an infected wound its just like inflammed from some stuff that shouldn't be there, i thought. i guess infected implies that there is another form of life infecting it. i am not quite sure. maybe kieran will die due to ass infection

it is also possible that a person may be able to be healed from a biotic condition or illness without it contradicting the "cannot kill anything" theory of healing. if an organ fails due it doesnt necessarilly mean that the thing that caused it to fail would be harmed by its restoration of function. due to uh. human bodies. diverting resources and

this may be a bit out of my field of expertise, actually



the warp powder right

seemed like literally the only fellow who had it was the black knight. even ashnard seemed impressed

you could consider that a form of condensed or pre-prepared magic to add to the list of "magic that is not cast immediately" like healtiles



staves used to be religious-exclusive yeah but nowadays any fellow with a weird cape can pick one up and start warping. it may be that it is more of a cultural thing than an actual thing, seeing that there are no staves that has use tied to any particular religion or ever fluctuates with how gods are feeling. could just be that the holy men use staves because its a holy man-like job. i guess there's the valkyrie staff since it's a holy blood prf but anything can be a prf



long range staves i do not quite know. maybe staff users are more in tune with spatial positioning than anyone else due to their familiarity with spatial magic........or maybe its just that 2 range rescue would be worthless

now im thinkin about sight range magic though. tomes n staves you can hit anywhere you can see. could be cool



yeah magic has gotta widen out a bit. usually its only two weapon types out of the lots of them and has a lot fewer classes to work in. its got two whole stats dedicated to it so i figure it could bulk up a bit. props to gba, dark magic is cool



rng forging bro

that aint it ill tell ya ill tell ya



nephenee actually can damage ashnard, common misconception. i did not allow her to so as to give the game a bit of hope in defeating my ultimately procured team



thanks for the hax ill probably toss em on when i eventually radiant dawn



by manually pair up two units you dont mean

the forbidden pair up technique!? impossible!



i thought tellius was so cool.......i mean it still kinda is but thats not a dub for radiant dawn



armorslayer on fighter man i treat those things like iron swords. mia has infinite speed as far as im concerned and ive got those things just stacked up for days. they look cooler than iron swords so i use em



73*3 damage thats pretty solid. thats a lot actually but its the final boss so its gotta be strong

actually i see you said most noteworthy insteada final. do we have another super easy final boss situation because damn it i can't bear to see it again



SORRY ELINCIA RIP U A REAL 1 YOULL GET EM NEXT TIME



the chapter 25 boulders are nonsense they literally just do whatever they want but yeah they dont respawn and barely deal any damage



i am happy you were able to deploy everybody one last time. i wasted it and still only used five but for you who has kept caring about the small man, the common folk, even when they are not meat grinders, it must have been fantastic



alright final gaming lets go





chapter twenty seven, what a rush. this is the first time in a long time nephenee felt the cold breath of the reaper lurking in her shadow

team a (ike, elincia) go up, team b (mia, volke) go right, team c (nephenee) goes left. with the combined might of two mages and a tiger laguz unchecked for three turns they got her low enough that she had to use a vulnerary twice. scary.

other than that the only thing that happens this chapter is that i steal the brave lance from the boss. now, like mia, nephenee's inventory is entirely filled with high-power special weapons. two of them are brave lances

she also hits level twenty with a pretty solid level for a girl who has two capped stats



after this, ike has his proper showdown against the black knight. well, not exactly. to be honest, it wasn't much of a competition. i mean, yeah, i got ragnell but by this point i didn't need to use it. hell, i couldn't have used it if i wanted to. ike has only been using aagne11 for so long that his fighting style became incompatible with ragnell. i whipped aagne11 out and he got onerounded. it's that easy.
but it's just cruel oh my god what am i doing to this game. i've created the shield that cannot ever be pierced and the sword that can piece anything. i feel like i'm playtesting the damn thing. it's like an isaac run that i won when i got brimstone and mantle in caves 1 and am just bothering to finish out of formality. like i like having made myself invincible and the strats i had to employ to do so but actually being invincible is kinda pointless



so, i stop using aagne11. i equip the newly-provided ragnell.

and wouldntcha know it i get nearly destroyed. ike is already level like 18 but the black knight deals more damage, and has more hit. neither of them double. mist shows up eventually and man. is she not prepared for this

she is a level two cleric who possesses a single heal staff. this is extraordinarily rare for my benched units as usually i take all of their stuff immediately and usually sell half of it but since mist is ike's sister and she's very nice i left her with the 18/20 use heal staff she started with

so she shows up, i get from what they're saying that the black knight won't target her, but she's in trouble immediately when the other guys spawn. i get one 15 hp heal outta her before she has to leave.

this whole time i'm holding out for an aether but i never get it and have to keep using vulneraries. eventually nasir shows up and saves my ass at the cost of his own. ena joins afterwards.



what a whirlwind huh. i really like the part with the black knight. kinda like the conq 25 bit but cooler and also you have to do it like that and he doesnt have astra and you also have 1-2

and the fact that you can fail it is neat too so they could make the fight hard without softlocking you. if i tried a few more times and brought elixirs instead of a single vulnerary i could probably proc aether enough to win (or at least once) but ill take the L here



the next chapter was composed of many laguz units! as if to make up to their previous scarcity. i use laguzslayers like iron swords and im done using iron swords by now so i just take it normally. i almost get punished for sending mia with her 9 mov into the main open area where every single enemy can target her. almost.

the worst thing that happens is that her fully forged slim sword loses a bit of durability and that she doesnt stop eating exp after hitting lv 20 while standing there. ike is also there but nobody wants to attack the guy with ragnell

ike also reaches level twenty. volke reaches 18, and elincia 17. shit. elincia isnt in this chapter. with bexp from the last one though thats what she's at





it's time for the big one. endgame. the final battle. the end of the war. i had to do something

FIRST PLAN: LOW TURN WIN

i get a full team, everybody is here. as long as they are capable of shoving at least one other unit, i put em on. the goal here is to get ike and as many other units as possible to ashnard as soon as possible. obviously wasnt gonna be a turn one win even with two aether procs because ashnard is a big guy, but i did not expect that i would never be doubling or getting aether. i did this thing a buncha times and eventually got it to the point that i could get six units almost to ashnard and ike all the way, but things fell apart quickly after turn one. obviously everybody that wasnt part of the main six (also ena is mandatorily here now) was going to die quickly but what i did not expect was mr daein's desire to attack people that were not ike! i kinda thought he weould do as the black knight did since he is very capable of killing ike with two attacks but the man has a temperament

so after an hour or so of trying i sacked the first plan



SECOND PLAN: RUSH ASHNARD (NOT AS MUCH)

i just take the six dudes and walk toward ashnard. simple stuff.

although! this is very difficult! even nephenee cannot bear the full brunt of gurgurant with its 20 mt (equivalent to youfurcation)

he is actually pretty beefy though. for a game that made me feel like a walking meat grinder stuffing poor rabbits and elk into my units ashnard is fairly capable

and for comparison, my good man garon (conquest 27, lunatic)

yeah garon has dragonskin but he also isnt invincible to almost every weapon by default, and you're dealing more damage on average in fates with more skills. the ten mov also does a lot for ashnard, the only real thing holding him back being how unimpressive daunt is. drops five hit? on god?

anyway as i remembered, literally only ragnell and ena can even touch the guy. but cmon, man. i can't play this normally. there's gotta be some challenge in the final map and while it is the most difficult so far i know if i employ even basic tactics itll be over in an instant

and that was it. the solution. all i had to do was



THIRD PLAN: NOTHING

it's literally nothing, and it aint gonna be anything, either. i end turn, every turn, until it does nothing. srpg becomes just rpg

of course i do ample preparation. ena is the weakest link, so get rid of that stupid ass boon skill and give her resolve and counter. yeah i know counter blows but her damage isnt great and she has a lotta hp. only half of the team has 1-2, but volke has shade and nephenee has provoke, so it works out. or rather: it is working out. i'm writing this during enemy phase



although despite my introduction the strategy is not entirely nothing. every couple of turns i intend to pop a fortify from elincia but i would prefer to avoid it as much as possible



elincia dies a few times so i get rid of her guard and give her shade. guard is really only helping on player phase with her massive speed and also it has never happened once on player phase so this is alright with me



on turn five of the winning run nephenee equips youfurcation in place of counter+. this proves to be an incredible choice due to her immediately just barely going below wrath range at 28 hp. she has the greatest weapon, and will always hit first and crit with it. the perfect soldier, although the brave axe guy with nihil scared me for a second. she eats this entire turn by herself, using youfurcation 14 times

on turn six, elincia goes and uses hammerne on nephenee's counter+ before returning to her original spot

by turn seven almost the entire map is cleared, not a single healstaff use necessary. we survive on grit and runesword alone. ena is hit by the sleepguy and falls asleep, but by now she almost takes less damage than she heals every turn, even if everybody targets her.



on turn nine


just as planned..,..this fool has no idea what is coming his way



i allow nephenee to get a single player phase kill on the sleepguy (without moving) and use that good ol fortify in preparation for the king's arrival



on turn eleven, i give up the strat and move most of the team out of the king's range since he hits frequently and hard enough to oneshot mia and elincia. ike remains stalwart



on turn twelve, i stopped writing things down and now its two days later

i lost due to many reasons, mostly bryce deciding to do the incredible, the unthinkable, and KILLING nephenee. he crit with his damnable wishblade and i saw this line for the first time ever


and while i have been making savestates and using them once or twice for things you could classify as misinputs if you were in a charitable mood, this was a dead end. we go agane



and now its today and it went better. i stopped doing nothingstrat just because it was so much waiting.,.,..for so many turns. i think i proved it was possible enough with my current team so thats fine with me



i routed by the time ashnard got to second phase, upon which i was given the chance to pick some guy to join me. i was given the same chance last attempt and just like then i picked nobody because the team was already so bloated with ena



and for the rest of the battle i stood in the bushes and used fortify with elincia. when it ran low, she gave it to ena who stood next to her and popped a hammerne before reaquiring it. ike could only take one attack from ashnard and he healed one less damage than ike did per turn, so if i wanted to make any progress i needed to rely on a dodge or aether. lucky me ashnard only attacks at one range, which apparently you must be at to proc aether. aagnell gets its final use in defeating bryce, which is the better weapon to be using because it and ragnell has the same might but aagnel has a lot more hit and some more crit. if only it was 1-2 and could touch ashnards stupid ass armor

if it wasnt for ashnards armor that isnt even a skill its just a flag nephenee could have eaten the guy alive

ike eventually got it but i basically just bruteforced. that is fine with me



and thats it. the end of the game fire emblem path of radiance, a game i didnt play for four years of saying "tellius looks cool". i gained a large amount of information and concepts while playing this that may go towards something funny in the fire emblem engine i havent been making. its still super ass easy but it was far more pleasant than three houses. looked nicer. better skills. more eloquent people. the protagonist is capable of speaking. shovestrats are cooler than 8 range bow strats. if edelgard and seteth were here everything would be perfect.

they DONT make em like they used to though thats just HOW it is and i'm sure as hell not gonna be trying that three hopes thing or whatever they called it. if you want it done RIGHT (to extremely specific standards that it is likely nobody else has) you gotta do it YOURSELF hasta la vista im gonna go back to making text documents about the ideal srpg



heres the lads:







taking these screenshots was stupidly painful. every single one, i shit you not, it crashed on every single screenshot. i would say i am so happy to never be using this scuffed ass rom again but every other game i play recently seems to require my own technical support to function well enough to any% so i guess it is not ike's fault


you thought the post ended here? well i thought the game ended there but nope! there's an extras button on the main menu. thats so cool. i literally cant remember the last time i was hit with one of those bad boys.

art gallery? music room? extra maps? thats what i wanna SEE

fully decked out extras menu, can't believe it. not playing the extra maps right now but its simply awesome that they included it

having to look at wiki to see what gba connection does but: more character art and unlocks some bonus maps. now. i wasnt asking for playable roy in a new game plus. but. if you wanted to go the extra mile

not complaining though this is plenty. music room also lets you see all the cgs and a lot of them look really nice and are only normally onscreen for like two seconds





(unfortunately due to join chapter differences mia and ike beat her out in corpses created)


i just finished all of my schoolwork for the semester before beating path of radiance here and working on this post so i will go back to doing my favorite thing: making that touhou roguelike game. releases. SOON


the messed up part about all these war stories is that everything is still worse than when you started. like yeah maybe here we got rid of ashnard and most of the racism (in theory) but i can imagine the average guy resenting absolutely everybody involved because it could have gone down a lot smoother in a lotta ways. they brought it up in that port town in chapter eleven that it might not really matter who rules to the average guy. yeah daein might be worse but the country is only gonna end up being in more disrepair after they get outed. the country spends all its money on war and then it spends it all on repair and a lotta people are gonna starve and a lotta other stuff is not gonna progress. maybe ashnard wasnt gonna fund the sciences but elincia probably doesnt have the luxury to. and then what are we left with but shitty infrastructure for over a century and gas prices at six bucks a gallon and only billionaires get to go to space

im projecting :[ ike is a good guy


this post was composed over the span of a month. some paragraphs are randomly substantially older or more recent than others. i have made a mistake. thanks for waiting!! bye
edit: its doing the line break thing and randomly inserting emoji but i am sorry i am not fixing it

[spongelevator]

ok it's done





it is funny because in sacred stones half my team was mages once again and god they are all so mediocre
there's the one guy who looks like a greek man (but it turns out I just saw the sprite wrong) and he does shit good and everyone else is about as useful as ilyana (not good)
I still have not beaten that shit I literally don't care enough to but yeah this has opened my eyes to mages not being consistently epic
in radiant dawn they are eh BUT there's a certain thing called siege tomes that the game actually lets you have this time around and hoo boy 

I think the only game I can recall that definitely does not have dead dad is loy game
eliw33d doesn't join in the main story but he's in the trial maps at least if you beat the game whatever the hell 5 times
I can confirm that in fe1/4/7/8/9 dad is dead 
in fe10 for miccy we don't know and I think in awakening chrom's parents are dead and you definitely kill robin's dad 
in fates I think all of fake fake dad (garon) and real fake dad (hoshido guy) and real real dad (eyeball dragon guy) are dead if you go rev (nasty)
so huh loy's game is the only one where we can canonically confirm that dad is indeed alive (and mom is dead)
another reason why loy game best game

the infection comes from the germs or whatever the hell I think poison would be considered uhhh
I do not know
poisoned I suppose lol 
and when they say to use fire on the wound or whatever to sterilize it that kills germ and closes the wound so they won't get infected
I do not know why wounds become inflamed maybe bacterias make healing slower because body will have to put effort towards making them piss off and maybe that's why 
or maybe it's like when you have a ketchup packet for too long and it gets bacterial bloat except in the wounded area (this is almost certainly not it but I just remembered that happens and lol is funny)
ok I have not been wounded myself but now that I think of it this is 1700+322 so people are not gonna get infected wounds and die from infected wounds no more
probably wounds become inflamed for a reason unrelated to bacteria and I am very wrong maybe the body just tosses a bunch of shit at a wound until it fixes itself and that makes it bloat
kieran will likely die to ass infection assuming he survives the initial anal thrust (I will stop typing this now)

ok I do not know what second part means I will just scoot along

yeah these days any rando can pick up staves like gordin

or hana

I miss the ol days of five months ago where only serra+priscilla+pent could use staves (because I forgot to promote literally any mage)
though it is funny this way because being reclassed to cleric is the ultimate disgrace

I liked the wackies that fates did like magic on flier (not viable)
or magic on axeman (not viable)
or magic on uhhhhhhhhh I forgot
if they can pull it off but make it good (and also make the game not three house) then that would be a 100% epic
well that or just like
do the light+dark+fire+thunder+wind except not horribly

I also heard that tellius was supposed to be the best ever epic fire emlblem S++ but honestly it's just path of radiance and even then that game is comically easy so it's only the story and characters
some people swear by radiant dawn while others utterly despise it
I think the balance is ass (good) and the story goes in a direction I don't care for at all (bad) and also why are the greil mercenaries here again and why is redacted
I dunno maybe you will like it more but I thought it was pretty 7.5/10 and it makes many questionable decisions
maybe I'll try hard some day and it will be something new
BEXP system allows basically anyone to be usable though so it was worth it
and part 1 ch9 is one of the funniest moments in any of these games (do not spoil) only rivaled by part 4 ch4 (also do not spoil)

nah radiant dawn's final boss is probably my favorite one out of all the games if not mediuth (only because he look cool and falchion is cool and boss theme is cool and chapter is cool) 
I won't spoil but you have to actually use more than a single unit with a legendary weapon it's an actual boss fight real
only issues I have is the terrain all looks the same but is actually important and also a stupid thing where ike HAS to deal the final blow or else the entire hp bar is refilled (though this allowed someone to kill final boss like 15 times in one turn I think lol)
ike be dealing the final blow while miccy cries on the side (she is not the protagonist) and elincia is dead and nobody cares

one day man I'll find a game that allows you to deploy everyone regardless of how shit 
oh no that's genealogy
OH NO THAT'S GAIDEN

I literally forgot about the extra maps just like with binding blade 
and speaking of binding blade
gba connect is where THIS is from:



that daein thing kinda happened in radiant dawn except not really enough outside of part 1 because greil mercenaries
benignon or whatever snacky country was called had some corruption and then they made daein suck more I do not know how to explain it but eh it's just another case of "radiant dawn does good thing for three hours and then not anymore"

ok now gaem

ch27
there ARE level ups but I won't show them because I thought ch26 was the last of those (foreshadowing) and I don't really care enough to make the last one
it's a castle map
sent ike up and he cleared out the entire fake top of the map and the entire real top of the map while everyone else scurried around picking up treasure

after that was the real real top of the map (the real top was a fake real top) 
burger king
so you have to proc aether twice with capped strength to beat him right
well ike got aether twice
and then burger king went down on player phase of turn 2

I literally trained up mist for this fight
only reason I bothered to use her in particular was for this one fight
and she didn't even do anything I don't think
seriously this was the big fight against arguably the main villain of the game (who is ashnard again) 
and man three hits and he's dead
I guess I'd prefer this over your version of not getting aether ever but man this made the fight a joke and I do not think it was supposed to be a joke I was genuinely let down by how anti climactic it was
I wanted a fight and I got a stomp
anyway so apparently bishops were supposed to come into the room and start healing burger king and the reason you promote mist is so she can outrun the bishops or whatever but huh
I suppose not

speaking of burger king did you know he is in super thracia I found out a little while ago


now after this is ike's resolve

(with speedup for extra comedy)

by the way the reason wayu is here and a lv20 swordmaster is because I got to ch28 and realized "wait shit radiant dawn has transfer bonuses"
and then I was gonna cap the closest stats of whoever is almost lv20 by redoing the chapter many times until realizing "wait I can just cheat"

and so I did
I picked wayu because I thought she'd be the only unit capable of capping luck but I was wrong in two ways
the first way is that lv6 with 6 luck-20->1-20 does not equal 40 luck because that's only 33 levels

and the second way was that wolt is able to do that if he gets luck every time so he's the guy
anyway 39 luck oh boy

wait waaaait

there we go :)


I didn't touch ike (I gave him the real angelic robe) so he is just naturally that overpowered
and it also turns out transfer bonuses are basically useless because of radiant dawn's stat inflation and also the fact that everyone who gets them doesn't need them due to already being really good and everyone who needs them (dawn brigade) can't get them
so if you ever considered doing this it's not worth the time unless the unit you want to use is torgod or something

I had ike say he would not give a speech


endgame
slapped units on the chokepoint squares+physic and waited
the enemy phases took an obnoxiously long time
ate full bagel in the time it took a single enemy phase to finish I shit you not volcanal animation is so damn long what were they thinking
a mememaster crit titania for 0 damage and then she crit him back for full HP damage
after this ike got knocked into resolve range, then proceeded to OHKO bryce
and then uhh
you see ashnard there?

he has 0 luck
and so ike OHKOs him with around 75 crit
and then his next form
he had what, 5 luck?
and so ike ORKOs him with two 70% crits
and that's the end of path of radiance



it basically felt like GBA except 3d and with skills except most skills are just there and don't matter a whole lot
oh yeah and also this is literally the easiest game I have played in the entire series by far it was so easy I almost thought I was good at fire embem for a minute
character good story good worth playing 
unlike genealogy the piss easy and arguably bad gameplay isn't annoying to get through so it was enjoyable
BEXP is good and quality>quantity on supports is nice

now for something barely related because wynaut
in this game skills didn't feel particularly important outside of aether+wrath+resolve
but in radiant dawn skills are genuinely done well
skills can once again be obtained as items and units come with their own skills
except you can equip and unequip them 
there is the skill value/limit thing and third tier promotions have locked skills which make things kinda suck but otherwise this is definitely the one I like the most
you can put skills on units when they need it and take them off when they don't
and you can also sell them 
meg may be absolutely garbage but you can take her fortune and sell it for 3k
it's like the ultimate form of taking an unused unit's inventory
not only will I take your shit, I will take your good luck away
I also realized the same lack of limitations applied to reclassing made me like it a ton more in DSFE
so I think my issue with reclassing/skills in modern FE is actually that it matters too much and is too limited/unforgiving
if you want certain skills you have to jump classes and you have to spend 10k each time you switch classes so it makes it way more important 
and as a result it now feels less like "let's reclass saji to dark mage as a joke! we can always change him back" or "let's give nolan beastfoe for this chapter to nuke laguz!" and more "if I use this heart seal on odin and I don't like it then I lose 10k and a unit"
in DSFE the only thing you can lose by reclassing is maybe wasted weapon rank in something you don't end up keeping
there's probably optimal stuff like reclassing to hunter for axe units for different growths or whatever but since I can reclass all I want I don't really see any reason to care about "meta" as opposed to in awakening or fates
for the sake of balance it could perhaps be an issue but it kinda just feels like everything other than archers (lmao) and dracoknights (good) are on around the same level so the issues with awakening reclassing might just be because it's balanced like shit
looking forward to mystery and thracia apparently they have items that improve growths when held so now everyone is viable

unrelated over now here is the team


ok I hope you enjoyed fire emblem path of radiance for the nintendo personal computer

[spongelevator]

allowed to post now so nintendo ninjas won't delete the entire proboards for infringing and then send their assassins after us

alright this is technically a spoiler but there is no way anyone who cares about this post couldn't have predicted this

you know in engage when lumera dies in like ch2 or 3 and she goes all "ohhhh my child you must collect the twelve chaos emeralds to stop eggman" or whatever
and then flan tries to heal her and says "she's too hurt I can't fix this"

she also says something about how she was losing divine dragon powers so maybe she died because of that or the stave didn't work because of that
but this is probably the closest answer we have to "why don't they just use a healing stave on dying parents/anyone else who is dying" since the only other time heal was used in a cutscene was to heal bruises 


also huh IS actually managed to make a game that doesn't suck
very cool

I enjoy
memories of gonzales

[lazulum]

I actually know very little about the series but I do look at some of the posts and at least recognize "that guy's in Smash Bros" haha

Unfortunate about the reclass changes. Sounds as though experimentation or some shenanigans are being discouraged

[spongelevator]

I do not know much about the smash bro but I heard marth can grab opponents better than he can walk after boots

ok I know you said you have not played the games but I will talk about reclassing as if I know things about reclassing anyway because it will be my post of the month ha ha ha it's february

read if you want to see many possibly incomprehensible words about mechanic of game series
gotta make at least 1.5k words or else it's not a real lunaticred post
alright reached 1527 that'll do that'll do

in fire emblem you get to make a team of around 8-15 characters who exist within categories
like archers and mercenaries and such
these categories are known as classes and in newer games you can change them for different stats and weapon types such as changing an armor knight to a hunter for higher speed but worse defense
doing this requires an item in the 3ds games
there are also skills that come with classes in newer games 
some give bonuses like +2 to strength while others might do things like a ~20% chance to attack an extra time
also release order of the games I'll mention are radiant dawn/fe10->DSFE (fe11+12)->awakening (fe13)->fates (fe14)->engage (fe17)
and some amount of engage spoilers will be here

ok now after explanation

it seems like experimentation is worse in newer games but shenanigans are possibly more than before
it takes more time and resources to do it but the results have more variety
DSFE reclassing allows you to reclass to like 6 different classes freely but the game has no skills
you can reclass as much as you want anywhere other than in the middle of a battle with the only limitation being available classes and the number of units you can have in a class
also I believe on new game plus in fe12 you get access to all classes when reclassing for twelve options for each unit
upon going from awakening reclassing (4-5 options I think?) to fates reclassing (one or two options without weird support planning microsoft excel things) I thought "people say the customization is the best in the series in fates but isn't this less than awakening?" and honestly I still do not get it (there are many things I do not get about fates but I've played it almost five times now so ???)

and with skills
in path of radiance skills are just scrolls so there is very limited moving skills around (and thracia is the same I believe while genealogy skills are fixed)
but in radiant dawn you can move skills around however you want whenever you want other than mid-battle
so I can take a bunch of defensive and offensive skills and give them to vika (one of the worst units in the game) and now she performs better than half my team since she has like a 60% chance to not take damage and will probably attack four times or whatever
in 3DS fire emblem you have to reclass to collect skills which makes the process slower and more costly
this is a much more minor thing than reclassing though this freedom and japery is the reason I sat through the slow ass animations of radiant dawn for seventy hour playthroughs twice
at least in fates if you wanna collect skills like lint on a roller you stay at the same level as before you reclassed so you can do that much more easily than in awakening

awakening's is like a nerfed version of both of those (reclassing to 4-6 classes and skills can be gathered from those classes) so it's like a middle ground between the two 
do what you want...kinda, as long as you're willing to pay each time and get skills with some effort (if pressing end turn=effort)
so you end up with more shenanigans possible with skills+classes but it takes much more time and (possibly) planning to get results

after the DS games reclassing started to cost an extra item worth 2500/2000 gold and requires you to be at a certain minimum level so reclassing comes later and is not free (also the items come in limited supply)
with the way skills work you can also say this makes getting new skills more difficult

in the way of balance I can understand why you shouldn't allow freely exchanging skills and also freely reclassing characters in the same game but in this way you can only reclass some characters and can't change back unless you have more reclassing items (and they only stop being limited in mid-lategame) so I don't prefer it
in fe fates the second seal is ever so slightly cheaper but the game is also shorter and I recall you could only get like four or five until mid-lategame (ok upon checking wiki it's 2 from enemies and three from the shop before ch20)
there are also three "friendship seals" and three "partner seals" before ch20 that can be purchased and they open up reclassing to the classes of units that have maxed out supports 
either I am dumb or S/A+ supports don't come easy and I also didn't make any attempt to plan those out so I just never bought any of those and in the end I had reclassed like three or four units per playthrough for each of those playthroughs
maybe the customization comes from planning that out since you technically have far more options than any other game if you make the effort to get more options
ok yeah it's probably that ok see padding out this post to reach 1500 words was worth it in the end

now after that revelation(s(removed from eshop)) I still say I like being able to turn armor knights into mages at will and putting four skills on a garbage unit to create a great unit freely since I prefer customization to be on a whim rather than something you have to choose in advance
but I understand the perspective of fates now for those who think these things out beforehand

and since I am at like 700 words right now I am gonna talk about engage's whole thing with reclassing
it is uhhh
I don't know
the game's economy is incredibly weird in that it gives you large amounts of money after periods of being dirt poor 
weapons are pretty expensive and the game also seems to expect you to be using many units (since units you don't bring say things like "I'll fight by your side any time, just say the word!") and there's also a thing where you can "donate" to countries to get extra stuff
but if you donate at all or try to buy any more weapons than you'd need for a party of ~12-15 then you will constantly be at like 3000g 
in the beginning of the game they make a big deal out of donating so I tried it with my seemingly excessive 30000g and it turns out it's entirely a waste of time and now I lack wealth
last time the game gave me 50000g and I bought new weapons for everyone so they wouldn't be using the same weapons from like ch13 and I was right back at 2500g
in the half hour I spent looking at engage's reception (it is mixed which means it's good) I saw tons of people saying they had issues with money in this game even on repeat playthroughs so it definitely aint just me
anyway you have to buy second seals for 2500g (and I don't recall if they were in limited supply since I could never properly afford them) but you can reclass to literally any class
IF
you have the weapon ranks
you get weapon ranks by getting bond with "emblems" which are the protagonists of previous games pulled from the grave and put into rings for the humor of dragons or an attempt to acquire large amounts of monetary reward (real life) or something
you can get higher bond by using the emblem or by spending the gacha points to up the bond
and I would say this was almost the best way to do it since it's piss easy and real quick and allows reclassing to any class (other than dancer and lord or whatever)
but around ch10 the game literally just takes away half of your "emblems" and if you didn't figure out the reclassing mechanic and the bond thing and everything in a timely manner (like probably 80% of players) then suddenly your ability to reclass is basically nonexistent
so not only is affording second seals difficult at times
but there are also certain classes you literally cannot access for like half the cast and game (celica is the only emblem that gives magic weapon rank and she joins in ch4, leaves in ch10 and rejoins in ch20) 
and also
the gacha points (called "bond fragments") are incredibly plentiful early in the game (just like money) and also don't seem to have much use to the new "engage gamer" which will probably lead people to think "eh may as well use these on the gacha thing for my entertainment" just like I did
and then suddenly after figuring out the whole bond thing you realize it costs some ~4000 bond points to get all the weapon ranks and the game gives like
maybe 600 if you talk to all the people and do all the base things since all the big gacha point earners are no longer frequent so haha idiot! you spent 70000 gacha points trying to get a severa S ring and got every single other ring you could possibly get but that? now you will only get to reclass two times
I dunno if I am just dumb for donating the money and for using the gacha points to see what happens and not reloading a previous save but it really felt like the game expects you to do those things 
and that combined with half of the "emblems" being taken away makes reclassing feel like something you're only gonna be doing around the mid-lategame and in subsequent playthroughs (and even then you have to plan out exactly who will be reclassed to what and when because you're gonna lose half of your weapon rank opportunities)
so basically they did it exactly right except they got it so so wrong


classic IS

[Aeon]

weapon ranks are based on emblems?? crazy
i thought we were pulling it back to genealogy where it was purely based on classes. kinda interesting
i wish i had more to directly respond to in your big post there but it is simply: informative
because i GAVE UP on chapter six of engage
i think i still have the iso
do i

i do
its thirteen gigs
next on the chopping block for when i run out of space

but i simply cannot play this game i am sorry
ANNOYING COMPLAINT ONE: it is SO SLOW. rewind mechanics make you play these damn things at a snails pace but also incredibly recklessly. it blows. time crystal divine pulse milas turnwheel turn yourself straight into hell i think

ANNOYING COMPLAINT TWO: the fouckin. 3d models on maps. make things so unreadable. i dont know if im insane but the games interface and readability has taken just unimaginable damage since the 3ds games. i also had this complaint about tellius but it was easier lol so i didn't really have to worry about it
sprites >>>> models when you want to know what things are at a glance, and the second screen makes looking for stats not straight hell. you want me to nagivate how many submenus deep just for you to REFUSE to tell me my weapons might?? only displays relative weapon stats???

THE REAL COMPLAINT: game has no story ! i can't sit down and play a thirty god damn plus hour game of not just no story, but no aesthetics and anti-characters that only exist to cause pain and get twitter fanart



i dont hate anime.,.,...i dont hate fire emblem.,.,,....but i hate all of this
i couldn't stand half of the guys in three houses, but that was only half of them, and the world was pretty interesting. all the games have some stinkers, it happens
but here we have an entire party of brown nose bootlicking unorganized clown lookin ass wrong idol venue lookin ass there aint no god damn way you an archer kid lookin ass dumb piece of trash IDIOTS
six chapters in, i hate everyone except nelucce. that guys great. dead in one.



looked up "fire emblem nelucce" and just remembered that this game has no 2d character art
that should be fine. 3d can be good. 3d can be GREAT actually. you seen arcane? hoooooooley shit. that. is three dee.
this is not arcane: this is SHITE. cutscenes look like such ass with the gender-specific always-clipping canned animations while they stand around unable to react to information unable to display any emotion except complete piety toward the Divine Dragon because that is ALL they are COMPOSED of.

bad story is a gameplay problem, i got no reason to keep these mfs alive. i always pick my team in emblemgame based on my favorites right i don't pick who's good i pick who i like. never used camilla once 2k23. but here? not a single one. my favorite character by a long shot is alear and alear blows ass.

if i have to fight the big foucking dragon at the end of the game one more god damn time im gonna!!!!!!!! i really will!!!!!!!!!!
i'd say ai generated story but i bet chatgpt could fart something more decent out

anyway what the hell else is there for me to mald and seethe about
ANNOYING COMPLAINT THREE: the emblems!
fanservice cringe whatever doesn't matter more importantly they are kinda cool
i do like stand battles
i think that the way it all works, how they charge up, how they bond, how they skill inherit, how they wont shut the hell up, how they turn red, is all kinda dumb but. theres something there.
it seems that if you know what you're doing you can just cut the game in half with these things even easier than with most fe but that's just how it goes huh
in general i don't like mechanics that the player/enemy can use and the other can't, and from what it seems engage usually has
- you have a lot of emblems and they have one on the boss
- you have a lot of emblems and they have none
- you have no emblems and they have lots (dlc nukes this)
i'm just guessing based on what i've seen past ch 6 though
time rewind crystal is really the worst of the asymmetrical mechanics though, it's like you and the enemy aren't even playing the same game. it's always been different in that enemies have no problem with risking units and that the player has a brain but accentuating the differences makes things lame i think. not even like chess.
part of why fates pair up is cooler than awakening: enemies can use it too! not as well as the player can but its getting closer to mechanical parity

tl;dr: i need to shut the hell up!!!!! and make it myself if i'm so damn smart lol!!!!!!! i'll do it one day thanks for reading

Feb 7, 2023 2:31:28 GMT spongelevator said:

I dunno if I am just dumb for donating the money and for using the gacha points to see what happens and not reloading a previous save but it really felt like the game expects you to do those things 

it seems like a lot of things in this game just kinda want you to use the internet to know, there's so many daaaaaaaamn skills that show up in one random emblems inheritance and so many daaaaaamn micromechanics that reasonably optimizing them by yourself, especially not knowing what's coming up next, seems pretty ridiculous
maybe i'm just bad
i was playing lunatic ironman but i was. taking some losses

[spongelevator]

honestly I can't tell if games are slow on my first playthrough but I believe you
when playing PoR for the first time it was just game
but the second time I realized how horribly slow it was and could barely force myself to finish it
considering I have like what
110 hours of engage playtime for one playthrough over the span of ~40 maps
it's probably slow as balls
though I don't particularly intend to replay it any time soon to see

when I started PoR I could not tell what anything on the map was because 3d models but five and a half playthroughs of 3d fire embems later I can easily and have almost memorized what everyone looks like even
except aran
I always forget that I didn't move aran yet
can't find an image without the crust of 2010 but he is the same color as units that have ended their turn

so it looks like you moved everyone but the turn isn't over and you gotta spend a few seconds figuring out why the games revered to fe1 systems
last time I went to gamefaqs to figure out what was going on in my shin megooms I took a look at the radiant dawn boards
and

gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/932999-fire-emblem-radiant-dawn/79470621
this is a universal issue

anyway yeah I can see that being ass
3ds sprites gave me more issues with tiny ass 2ds screen I need that shit to be like 1-8 or 11+12 where you're not allowed to zoom in and out so the game actually displays more than like twelve tiles by default
otherwise everything looks like ants and exactly the same
after seven and 1/2+1/2 playthroughs of 3ds I can usually tell what I'm looking at now though so you just gotta dump like 200 more hours into 3d fire emblem games to be able to tell what anything is 
it is the reverse version of my issue probably solvable in same way
since we all know engage is a tad bit kusoge may I recommend, in the spirit of this thread, radiant dawn :))))))
I can tell you everything about the radiant dawn I know how to deal with all the garbage now I made it to the end of part 1 with a team of promoted units and will probably bring at least four siege tomes to endgame I have ascended to godhood
I dunno about you but even though radiant dawn has you using the exact same group of units on the exact same maps every single time it still manages to be way better than it should
especially when you feed ilyana for the entire playthrough and she's still worse than every other unit you bring to endgame
radiant dawn is one of the most controversial games though 
not like fe11 where for every nine people who say it's shit one says it's the best ever 
for every one person who likes it one hates it
kinda like fates

speaking of fates seriously how do I play that shit
over a year later I've finally gotten to the point where I kinda like fates now but playing it still feels like playing chess except mentally I think I'm playing picross with the soul of a brain damaged toddler reincarnated into a sewer monkey
did conquest again and got halfway through birthright 
I can curbstomp awakening now that I figured out what a support is but I still get filtered by normal mode birthright I got stuck on the boat map for six months and actively attempted to play it at least twice a week during that time
I even had a trained up setsuna because lol and still

oh yeah engage has a button that displays the class of units on the map at all times
I completely forgot because it looks like ass but that probably does what you're looking for without the part where you play the game three times to tell what anything is

ok back to actual replies to your post
I think only the ds and 3ds games had anything better than pressing a button to display stats and whatever
engage is uniquely ass in that it took me seventy hours to find out how to see a weapon's stats (I think you had to check it during a battle preview or when in the convoy screen which is dumb as hell)
unless you're referring to how 3ds has everything on one screen which then yeah that becomes up to three screens in other games

yeah story is ass there was one funny line in there that I can find exactly zero screenshots of and I can't be assed to check every single chapter of the game to find it but otherwise I remember almost nothing from it
only good thing about the cutscenes was that veyle is always making this face

I have no idea what this expression is supposed to convey but lol man looks funny as hell

if you play radiant dawn you don't have to fight big dragon at the end :))))))
actually well you do have to fight a big dragon but it's not just "bad evil always terrible dragon" and he is not the final boss he's the pre-pre-final boss and he's difficult enough that people might train up ilyana or bless a wyrmslayer instead of vague katti or train up their own weak ass dragon just to be able to defeat him

I do not intend on comparing engage story to like
I dunno man fe9 story
though I feel most of the games don't have a story worthwhile enough for me to care
shit like engage and sacred stones and whatever the hell is definitely far lower than something like fe11 or whatever (not to say fe11 is good but to say it's very average)
but if I want story I go play metal gear where it's like 50/50 ratio of gameplay to story lol
literally entire subplot in mgs4 about the idiot diarrhea guard from mgs1 having diarrhea in mgs4 and it turning into a positive trait because the diarrhea is actually a result of his body not being regulated by nanomachines like every other soldier so all of the events in the story that fuck everyone else up have zero effect on him
with that one time he saved snake the dumbass diarrhea guard is technically the only reason the world was saved from being entirely taken over by a bunch of AIs with the minds of hundred year old philosophers being controlled by a 70 year old shirtless man who himself is being mentally controlled by the arm of his former boss he transplanted onto himself after having his arm cut off by a cyborg ninja
ok yeah see there is more story in that than like 80% of fire emblem games
I mean not to say "fire emblem story always been bad!!!!!!!! give me likes" because I am 99% sure that "opinion" is just bad faith arguments if not straight up bait
but rather that fire emblem has about as much relevant story to me as touhou and I enjoy characters based purely on my initial reception (biraku good nyx bad ect)


I have seen people abuse the emblems to get to thracia-tier shit 
micaiah gives +5 staff range and +1 area of affect
so now you can warp the stave user plus the dancer and three more units ten spaces forward with rewarp
except byleth also allows you to dance genealogy-style
so you can have three units act then dance the warp user and those three units (one of which may be the dancer) 
and yeah there is some guy who finished all of the emblem paralogues in one turn each with that
back at pre-release (as in, leak times) people were saying the game was actually difficult 
and now like three months later people are saying it's so easy you can beat it with any team 
and the patches and dlc add a bunch of changes and free shit to make the game much easier even if you don't use any of the dlc emblems (and those also appear to be very broken)
it's like when persona 5 added in the dlc personas that can curbstomp the entire game by wiping out 15-turn long bosses in two turns except fire emblem (tms 2 when)

typically what the game does to "balance" the emblems
is just giving bosses like three hp bars through the revival crystal things (I think you have probably seen those right)
sometimes they have an emblem and I recall in later chapters it becomes a pain in the ass like griss warping with celica to OHKO one of your units in fog of war or zephia having like 15 move with sigurd so you immediately bait her out upon getting halfway through the map
though I recall bosses with three hp bars that only die to +5 killer axe wrath crits being the thing that was probably supposed to balance them
instead of both sides using a mechanic it's more like each side has its own bullshit (though you can also just crit the boss then dance the critter (haha critter) then crit the boss again then dance the dancer then dance the critter then win)
so that attempt at balancing is kinda an utter failure

it feels like the game was pretty damn crusty on release
zero explanation for a lot of what's in the game unless I am just stupid
I didn't even realize you have to do the emblem paralogues to get the rest of the skills until 2/3 of the way through the game
I thought it just maxes the bond or something so I never bothered doing any of them
the patches and dlc just throw money and skill points (and I think bond points) at you so probably their fix is to just give you so much that you can't possibly use it all without figuring it out eventually lol 
honestly though it kinda feels similar to what I thought 3ds was with the looking up skills shit and the reclassing shit and the weird new mechanic that probably will only stick around for one or two games shit but I have seen exactly zero people compare the two in any of these ways so now I don't know what 3ds or engage is I guess
with everything other than skills engage is definitely worse with explanations and whatever though I found some minor peace in seeing skills can just be inherited with points instead of reclassing and you're only allowed to use two 
I thought I was being stupid with the reclassing thing and that reclassing doesn't matter but then I saw someone show their team of normal not reclassed units and everyone was saying "man what the hell are you doing how did you even get this far" so now I have my doubts
maybe I figure out like 200 more hours later hopefully 
but yeah that is enough talking about things I do not know many things about pls tell me how play fates I wanna use benny again benny is cool


tldr;; play raidant dawn 







also the weapon ranks thing it's that they are based on classes genealogy-type but each unit has specific areas they are proficient in and that adds +1 to the rank
and to reclass you need to get the weapon rank skill from emblem
I think the only one that actually affects weapon rank outside of reclassing is micaiah who gives C staves to anyone regardless of class
even though it should have been immediately apparent for me once I thought "huh why can't vander equip lances with sigurd" I didn't actually realize until halfway through the game like the rest of the things engage does
I guess second playthroughs might be more interesting 

[Aeon]

i think yeah you can only play por especially once. it is a fantastic game: except for the gameplay
somehow with engage i was feeling it the first time around though. messed up

i still haven't gotten used to looking for 3d guys even after two and a half routes of three houses and por but there is a chance i am just bad
i am sorry aran.....always forgotten.
theres the guy in awakening with that as his gimmick, kellam. perhaps based on funny aran there

i actually hadn't even thought of playing radiant dawn since it seemed like you weren't vibing with it at all earlier in this thread (last year lol) but that is good to know
perhaps controversial but thas where they keep the good stuff huh

how to play fates: idk lol
i mean i can do it but i couldn't tell ya how. "look at enemy skills !"
if you are having trouble in the midgame you can always just go and redeem some of your kid coupons since i think all of them can be pretty decent units
you can try to get a mechanist through kaze or someone so you end up with that sweet sweet replicate
having multiple paralogues or invasions open for a rainy day is pretty good so you can get some extra money or something
also worth it to do all the dlc at least once
uhh
kana and the amiibo units kinda suck but everybody else in the game is viable
you could also be like me and purchase 128 iron swords for hilarious strats. in general forging is good
wait do online services not work anymore? i know they just shut off the eshop
that would actually be pretty awful lol
getting skills from online once in a while is aight but how is someone gonna get all the gemstones for forging

is the engage class display real class display or the like
subclass archetype display? i found that
i wish i had a good opinion on the subclass stuff but i do not. they might be cool i just dont get why qi master has to get completely shitted by leveling up with hp. cmon

veyle is kinda funny
she doesnt look anything like byleth how are they related

mgs4 shitting man, what a god damn tale. that is so cool
yeah i think the plot plot of (most) emblem games is mostly simple and a lotta the actual like
stuff
is in the supports or whatever
but engage is you know a step beyond having a basic plot it has perpetually unbearable playables
based instant "this one is a good/bad one" enjoyer thats how i make my army

yeah that michael emblem seems insane
i saw someone one turn the final map
which isn't anything new for fire emblem but now that bosses are so damn tanky and that map in particular makes you kill like six other tanky guys beforehand, pretty impressive

you might be right about 3ds having some pretty esoteric stuff though
i probably just cant see em since thats where i started

benny can be used by: uhh
in my experience defense actually does not mean too much in fates, luantic conquest i only had one tank-type guy since seigfried is goated
wary fighter and not being weak to beastslayers is probably good though
hold on now i feel like a dumbass lemme look at him and think of an actual route id take with the guy
okay i honestly might pop the dlc paragon on him because pre-promotion he is gonna be tough to roll with
but i think if you can get him wary fighter and then go to great knight he will actually be huge, luna is gonna get him great damage that should put em just below a swordmaster. pavise is probably not saving your ass much to be real so i wouldnt hold out hope for it
if you can forge a hexlock spear you can cover some of those res problems without shooting yourself in the foot too hard for damage but to be honest the mov is probably gonna be better there since you can just run away from most mages
if you want to proper tank youll still need a pair up and rally def will help, grab my man haitaka for that. spear master is actually a really damn good well-rounded class so if you like spears theres a second speardudes
i usually dont worry about who s supports who but i bet you can imagine that no matter who benny goes with he wants to pass down luna in this case

i guess thats just how i think about getting guys in fates, gotta SPECIALIZE because nobodys gonna be good at everything and they probably wont always even be good at what theyre supposed to but theyll shine through when its proper time

tl;dr: i think i will play radiant dawn

heres a funny image in my downloads so this post isnt entirely dry text

[spongelevator]

ok I woke up and decided to go on forum because wynaut maybe carpet's triumphant return happening or something
and turns out I am early

I swear I am not a bot or telepathic or nothin this happens very frequently though

if engage feels slow your first time around then it is probably even slower than I recall
I just remember around ch21-22 I started doing all the emblem maps and got like 20 levels overleveled on my entire team
but even then the camilla map took two and a half hours and I skipped half of the map and turned animations off
so probably it's gotta be the slowest game even tellius is not that slow

eh it is fair maybe it has to do with the colors
I opened awakening to see kellam colors and I noticed everyone in awakening on your side is kinda blue and everyone on the enemy's side is kinda red
and then I looked at fates and it's like that too
while in PoR and radiant dawn and engage it wasn't uncommon that certain characters looked like they already moved or blended into the environment because your team isn't color-coded
mainly I can recognize the 3d models because I already know who everyone is but it's definitely easier to tell what things are with sprites unless they are zoomed out (but when zooming out in engage I can only see veyle and alear from a glance so that's just a zooming issue)

ok I reread what I said about radiant dawn
I was attempting to strongly recommend not playing it ironman because ironmanning makes it easier and probably far less fun since all the exp would get funneled into the already good units who don't die but it probably made it sound like I thought the game was ass since lolenglish
in part 1 once the scrub brigade starts to get shitty (if you don't train them well) the game throws prepromotes at you with stats so high that there is zero way you can't beat the rest of part 1
then part 2 is entirely composed of essentially using units with their base stats since you never have the same group of units
and part 3 has units strong enough to last the entire part with 0% growths
then part 4 has laguz royals that tear the game a new asshole
generally the game wants you to use those units since they put them on one side of the map and you sit on the other side with your shitters so it doesn't end up awakening chrobin-tier
but whenever the prepromotes are grouped with the normal units I just use them as a wall and then spend seventy turns having micaiah poke enemies for 11 damage until I'm sick of the whole thing and just clear the map

probably 50% of the units in the game are not gonna be getting notable exp until part 4 but that's also because their bases hold up to the point where I still am able to deploy many of those units as filler in part 4 maps
instead of units kinda being "good and trained" or "unusable" it's more like prepromote god/laguz royal>trained units and normal prepromotes>good enough units>garbage
so this game has the least "take your level 1 scrub and turn into a 20/20 god" of the series but almost everyone is perfectly usable since they all end up capped by endgame anyway and the game gives you three paragons (which you can move around since removable skills) and a chapter with infinite reinforcements (part 4 ch5)
it may seem like the laguz royals too good (and they are) but if you don't bring them to endgame you don't gotta think about them anymore so it works out fine if you have a team you like then the laguz royals will be staying behind

I have played three times and my playtime went down 20 hours each playthrough lol last time I had four laguz and three archers on my endgame team
for me at least this probably top 5 fire emblem I can't call it "best" by any means but it has some of the weirdest maps and unit...development? I can recall and it is very nice

oh yeah and I believe all of us here dislike horse emblem
out of all the games I've played radiant dawn is easily the worst for horse units
ledges and also most of them have awful availability and they also have terrible speed caps so by the time they join up with everyone else they have the same speed as sages and armors (and armors have actually good defense and res this time)
only horse I ever brought to endgame was titania I gave her urvan 

also if you gonna play you need this 
serenesforest.net/radiant-dawn/miscellaneous/hidden-treasure/
I know I know "guide game" but this plus knowing ilyana joins greil mercenaries in part 3 (give her the most valuable items to sell at the end of part 1 they are dirt poor because they're mercenaries) and buying the hammer in 2-3 or keeping the one in 1-6 or getting a hammer through whatever other means (like disarming the general that doesn't move in the bridge map) and keeping it with at least a few uses until endgame-2 for ezcheese safety net is all you need
well actually you could definitely get by without hidden items (and the other two things here) but they help 
also transfer bonuses worked for me on pc so you can get a slightly less shit nephenee if you do that they give +2 to any capped stat on a lv20 PoR unit



I think last time I played I was only able to complete like half of the kid paralogues I think I found out there was a point in which the enemies suddenly promote and I didn't do any of them until after that point
so I will try and do that earlier next time

in birthrout I forged +5 rat tome and +5 steel lance I should probably have done that in conquest
I think all I ever did in there was +3 iron sword because I was too busy buying staves to put in the convoy and not ever use
online still up so we can still gather 99 fish and visit so many castles that the old ones open back up because the game can't keep track of the amount visited 

yeah it is subclass archetype I went and checked
I guess still somewhat useful but I didn't remember all the subclasses until halfway through the game so not very useful
I enjoy subclasses well enough coverts get more avoid and mages can say "lol nah man your +60 avoid aint shit" and backups can make bosses not impossible
I honestly forgot qi adepts had the guard at full hp thing I benched flam until I brought her back 10 chapters later and seadall is a dancer and that one other kid sucks 
though lol yeah that is ass I did not consider that

mgs4 shittan man be shittan since 1998 he is a veteran shitter
legendary hero and kojima's greatest literary achievement

supports pretty good but man in engage
I spent like three hours trying to get all of the alear supports in engage
none of them are good
like at all
my favorite supports are the binding blade ones and there are a good amount of duds in there
engage is like 100% duds they are all terrible I enjoy etie and boucheron because their gimmicks are taken to absurdity and that's about all
best way to decide is just to see portrait and decide though

(engage lacks portraits)

final map is ass if you don't one-turn it then there end up being 6+2+2+2+2 reinforcements every other turn 
had I realized the gimmick I would have one-turned it with panette crits and dancing her then dancing the dancer but instead I had to spend like forty turns charging up emblems to kill the last guy from range while having bunet take 0 damage from approximately twelve enemies per turn and then crit the final boss and crit then crit once more

I gotta read up on my 3ds and play like four more times then I will learn it probably maybe
since I started with fe7 anything more than knowing when a secret shop shows up or the general location of a group of reinforcements is a bit much 
but eventually I'll get it I can tell I'm beginning to believe

I was able to get benny to promotion but I always went with general and his defense would end up so high enemies wouldn't attack him
probably next time I'll play on hard I am guessing that's a normal mode thing 
ok great knight benny pass down luna to ignatius who is also very cool hopefully find hexlock spear get haitaka save all statboosters for gunter ok I see naruhodo sonanoka
I will try conquest hard soon now this time I will not mess it up maybe

ok I should probably have shown my conquest team

sophie and silas were just filler from what I recall everyone else I actually used for significant portions of the game
I can see some of these units are ass but for many of them I can't tell really 
I remember shura's damage output was in the single digits by endgame so I probably should have given him a bow that doesn't suck or something
mostly ended up benching arthur and mozu because good god man come on now
so they were replaced with ignatus and izana 
though yeah this team is probably how it feels to play genealogy with replacement units only or something they do like 20 damage and then take 30 damage back I dunno what I doin

[Aeon]

the EMBLEM maps dude thats crazy they seem to let you do so much stuff that will just take your team way beyond a like story chapters only playthrough. the dlc seems especially hugely busted since not only do ya get those extra emblems but you also have the map exp and apparently get a ton of items !
maybe not too bad if the game has the level cap, three houses didn't so you could kinda just go forever

that makes sense about the colors, in sprites its more apparent
slightly relatedly, i was playing this awesome mod and it makes your team color BLACK. that is awesome we should always be allowed to customize team color

>ironmanning makes it easier
classic fire emblem
what a game huh
i guess it was a similar issue in path of radiance, the fewer units you used the better. that's why i've got my four person unbeatable team

the flow there sounds pretty unique for sure which whatever i'll take it by this point
there's some way to transfer your save data from path of radiance over right
all the struggles (instant nephenee sweeps) will have been worth it

ah cool you just brought that up
plus two to any capped stat hmm that sounds kinda lame but also very useful
let me scroll up a bit and see how many stats i'm getting

wow that's way less than i thought. oops

yeah i don't go out of my way to do the extra kid paralogues either because they can easily be just as hard as the story chapter alternative and also grinding for supports for underleveled units becomes nearly impossible eventually since they are that underleveled

bro grinded out engage supports im so sorry
yeah all of them that i saw were so lame
and the supports with the emblems are like two lines long?? what??

engage lacks portraits
how did they get away with that

aeon advice:
try LUNATIC conquest. the real shit
if you aren't trying to ironman you will be in for a real battle
i believe in you

lets see the team
based and izanapilled, i see (i have never used izana but he is funny prepromote)
wyvern lord gunter is pretty cool
if you want my analysis for which are ass and which are gas:

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corrin is aight i woulda put him back in nohr noble after getting sol since dargonstome
felicia will die but thats fine since she is a feezer
same for flora. personally i only have a single real staff user just for the misplaced hope that i will get to use bifrost once ever. this may be a mistake and you may be making the greater choice
xander is xander, he is good by default but will get good-er if you can get him luna and toss one of the gimmick lances on him, siegfried means he is never hurting for damage but a hexlock spear could save his life a fair bit
elise is ALSO freezing wow you got heals for days
benny is def fourty five. hooooly shit. cant really critique that! thas why you gotta try lunatic!
ignatius got lunge from camilla thats nice for a low mov dude. he also took wary fighter which means in one level hes going to get absolutely nothing from being a general. unfortunate
sophie swiped sol and nothing from silas, i guess you wanna have parents in different classes than their kids. kinda hard since now that i consider it nearly all of the males are the same class as their kids. im doing class switching anyway so didnt really kill me though
gunter is cracked skills with a stank ass inventory. that man gonna die
odin cannot use excalibur :[ i usually get him outta magic only because look at that 20 str just for fun. dude is built for both types of damage
silas is uh. holdin onto some aight weapons. he will die at the lightest touch. its ok hes filler
arthur is also going to die. impressive stats for a level one berserker, but also a level one berserker.
is this ya endgame team? its a bit crazy to me how many people are single digit level
not that thats your fault, it probably just speaks to how many more enemies there are in lunatic
anyway shura is not boots. cool
drop the shining bow on him yeah that works
another lightning on ophelia who is a bit frail but probably better than mine was at lv 4
and mozu is still waiting on a skill or two
selena is P PLUS FOUR so thats gotta be good. cant go wrong with any of that really
camilla does not seem to have gotten many levels
and hi izana staff user no. four

nice
if you want unsolicited advice: get they ass outta they base class
sometimes get they ass back IN they base class but you wanna get a skill or two especially for inheritance
id recommend playing all the dlc at least once or bare minimum grabbing those free things anna gives you and the route bonus items since theyll jumpstart you on not having three guys with elbow room. ballistician is hilarious and mozu in particular really benefits from going anywhere easily
feed the stupid fish so you got da gold for more heart seals (or iron swords)
aaaaand personally i wait some time (parents are both promoted lv 5 usually) to get kids so i know im passing down two really banger skills. if you have the patience its worth taking someone through mechanist because not only do you get replicate once you get it twice. i did not do this last time i bought a replicate online but it would be worth it i promise

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[spongelevator]

the emblem maps were very strange because they don't scale to your level so you can just rack up exp
I went from being chronically underleveled (7-10 levels below what the newest story maps would suggest) to 20+ levels overleveled after all of them
also it's awakening type reclassing so there is no level cap many of my units ended up like 20/20/5 and untouchable by everything outside of endgame

shit I remember hearing about garonquest I decided I will play it once I gitgud^tm and can complete game with less than five resets per chapter

it's kinda like path of radiance except bringing other units doesn't feel like actively harming yourself with funny ilyana getting 2HKOd by every enemy on the map even after promotion
actually if you bring like
meg or something to later part 1 maps you are absolutely harming yourself
hell two maps after I got her I had to reset because I thought her attack speed was enough to not get doubled by a pegasus knight being weighed down by a steel lance but oh boy meg shows me a new level of fun every playthrough
despite this due to broken mechanics you can get meg to cap half of her stats with her pegasus knight growths then BEXP the other half and she is just as viable as any other marshall in endgame
I made leonardo and vika work so I am almost certain basically any unit can be viable in endgame if you care enough to do it

basically in radiant dawn I tend to bring a full team because there's almost always a full team of competent units available that can let you clear the map quicker than trying to juggernaut as opposed to path of radiance where ike+wrath+resolve+ragnell+singular vulnerary+promoted mist with physic equals win
except for haar maps if you decide to haar them he can do it better than a full team if he gets nullify
if you haar maps then haar ends up promoting halfway through part 3 then stomps the rest of it and whichever part 4 maps you bring him to
he can't really do endgame amazingly because 32 speed cap but he's more than competent if you bring him so he doesn't just laugh at the entire game but he laughs at like 90% of it
so ironmanning is really just accepting that fe10 is radiant haar and deploying only him as he goes through five hand axes on one map and you give him five more out of the fifty you bought in 3-2 to complete more maps in record time
and if you radiant haar and bring him to endgame you best forge him peak hand axe and get a +2 might card then bless that shit
always a heartbreaking moment when haar grabs the last of his sixty hand axes from the convoy on his final map if not brought to endgame

somewhere he rests easy axe in hand and axe in heart


yeah it is pretty wacky especially because this game has more than two promotion items in the entire thing and BEXP can be cheesed and you get a ton of it 
so even on repeat playthroughs it tends to feel pretty different last time I played I slapped a promotion item on jill immediately and she actually does stuff now
you go from chapters with just shitters to chapters full of gods to three chapters in a row with almost no overlap in units to a bunch of chapters with competent units leading back to shitter chapters and so on
seriously though you get an armor knight with these bases on 1-4

then a general with these bases on 1-6-1

then a marshall with these bases on 1-9

by the way the best armor isn't any of these guys it's aran who isn't an armor
get past his awful initial training and with his 70% defense growth he will repay you for your efforts tenfold
shit is fucked UP we aint messin around here we playin radiant dawn

transfer bonuses was kinda ass in PoR first time I cheated and maxed out a bunch of my units on the chapter before endgame for them bonuses just because lolwynaut
and after playing the game without transfer bonuses I can say with confidence it helps less than ten units total if everyone has every single stat capped I think it maybe helped ilyana double and it made torgod less awful to train up and I think it allowed haar to double the boss of 2-E without a speedwing
with what you have uhhh
nephenee's speed might be helpful for her to double with steel greatlances or to reach her cap earlier if you use her again
transfer that ike and he's pretty much set for all of part 3
wayu only capped strength but that's really her only issue so it helps
volke's transfer will start him out with capped strength and he'll be two points from capping skill and three from speed which is nice
and lol I guess elincia will heal 2 more than usual or something 
under normal circumstances the units that I would say are significantly helped by transfer bonuses are:
ike

that's it

oh yeah also A-supports and weapon level (to some extent) transfer
not a huge deal but starting out with 100 avoid because of oscar+ike support in PoR transferring is pretty lamo and having immediately not terrible weapon ranks on everyone is cool

oh ok I thought I was just ass and the kid paralogues were babby-tier or something I will just do a few next time then instead of suffering for a unit that will warm the bench for their filler parent who is soon to join them

worst part about support grinding is when engage added the thing at the base in an update I didn't have where you can just put two units and they'll almost always get a level of support after a few times
instead of that I just went to the shop and bought 99 flowers for 10 gold and then continuously gave them out until supports went up 
and then repeated that until all of the supports were maxed
should have just boxed in an enemy on a grind map and ended turn for 999 turns

ok I will lunatic for the funnies and get -10 to every stat due to ninja
one map a week shit's gonna be like graduate math classes where your homework assignment for the month is five problems and you spend twenty hours on each one

I heard about some paladin jakob thing that makes him good is felicia just always not very good
I see the options are strategist and hero and bow knight and man either I dunno what's good or those do not look very good for her huh

lol yeah I still have very many stave users because of the ol fe6 ten stave users habit
maybe it will come in handy next time 

probably I should reclass the parents or kids though I think I didn't expect the kids to actually reach lv5 to scoop up anything 
I will go take a look at them reclassing options later maybe ignatius gets luna and becomes a radiant dawn general 

yeah this is endgame team
I notice these days I'm less prone to having a team where six units reach lv20 then the rest are like lv5 so it might just be I am ass at exp distribution

ok I will use a team of twelve (12) units instead of 18 and reclass like it's fe11
shura is a ninja severa is a falcon knight corn is a butler felicia marries benny and becomes a general this will be my moment I will make you proud

[spongelevator]

doubleposting since just did this still in recent memory fresh new gameplay

I have no idea if we are doing the thing here again but since fates is like 20 chapters long that's what 
five posts
so I decided I may as well put it here

ch0-6 in here
it may seem stupid that I even bother making a separate post for these but everything past chapter 1 genuinely gave me a mild bit of trouble or more
so here is the tale of corn, forced to side with nohr for the third time and slowly finding himself turning into a lunatic in his fourth reincarnation of slightly alternate realities

+luk -skill obviously we aint chumps here
and apparently for butler you need troubadour 
whether picking troubadour influenced the growths or not I have no idea
but after the route split my lv9 corn has -2hp/-2str/+4mag/+1def/+1res so I guess that's pretty not too bad right get four more hp per heal

anyway I THOUGHT I made a bunch of screenshots but the only one I made was this

so uhh yeah haha enjoy 

ch0 and 1 are lol so ch2 is where shit gets ass
I'm assuming the reason I had difficulty with this chapter was just because I kept trying to feed corn 
every time I did basically the same thing except corn has 66 hit on kaze so that was like three resets there
I tried seeing if there was a better way to do it but eh eventually he hit that 66 and it was good enough 
so now for ch3 where things actually happen

trying to feed all the archers to corn resulted in some ~35 turns of just slowly killing all of them and then getting to the boss where either I remember very wrong or corn had 49 hit and gunter had ~60 hit like it's binding blade or something
figured out felicia's skill does not work when she is on the back end of the pairup learning new things now that skills actually matter
probably would have been much easier and not taken like six attempts had I just not tried to feed every single archer but eh gotta get to lv10 and promote to start training that dagger rank maybe I'll finally be able to use that uhhh
spy's shuriken or whatever it was called that I never use a single time
ok never mind butler has a max weapon rank of B so I guess that isn't happening 
anyway probably cooler if not feeding corn but when feeding corn oh boy

ch4 is ass because ryoma just kills the entire thing before you can get any killz I am convinced that chapter is just there to make you pick birthright so you can have ryoma do that except for the rest of the game after he joins
also is there a way to deal with the facelesses in the middle while using the dragon vein or do you just die 100% of the time
I didn't even bother attempting it after looking at their stats so I just did a shuffle up and down the hill to kill one at a time but is that just japes or somethin

and then ch5 where it's actually pretty neat
I finally figured out that pair up is that guard stance thing and that it negates attack stance because if I didn't figure that out I don't think the chapter is even possible to beat
only took me four attempts to realize that when kaze was not kill it was not because of a miss but rather because of that
forgot to trade over their items and staves haha oops rip like 500 gold or whatever and then picked nohr siegfried'd an innocent shrine maiden in the face and now I have 83 items in the convoy from online bonuses and I'm saving all of them for gunter

anyway that is all next time is a REAL fire emebelm people gonna get HURT and careers will be changed